Flash vs Quicksilver: Who is Faster?

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What are the real speeds of Quicksilver, Flash and Superman?

8 Answers

Andrew Cliett
  • Quicksilver: Originally, Pietro Maximoff could move, think, and run at ‘supersonic speeds’; this term is fairly vague, but gave us an idea of how fast he is. Later on, Quicksilver gained the ability to surpass the speed of sound thanks to experiments performed on him by the High Evolutionary. And through increased speed, stamina, and natural mutant evolution, he could eventually run faster than radio waves can travel. Radio waves are a kind of electromagnetic radiation, and thus they move at the speed of light. The speed of light is a little less than 300,000 km per second. At that speed, a beam of light could go around the Earth at the equator more then 7 times in a second.
  • The Flash: Before explaining how fast the Flash can run, I’m gonna briefly establish all of the people who have assumed the mantle:
  1. Jay Garrick: The first person to be called the Flash and didn’t have much in the way of extra powers; meaning no things like creating vortexes, no light-speed running, and no hurling and/or catching bolts of lightning.
  2. Barry Allen: The second and arguably best-known Flash. Allen is best known for having created the Speed Force, an interdimensional pocket of energy which all DC speedsters draw their power from. Barry can run at and surpass the speed of light, absorb and retain vast amounts of information, blur his features (any speedster can do this, Garrick included), phase through objects, and vibrate his body so fast he can make himself invisible.
  3. Wally West: The third and fastest Flash. Wally has all the same powers and abilities as Barry, but Wally eventually becomes the Speed Force; making him the fastest Flash.
  4. Bart Allen: Has all basic Speed Force abilities, except he can generate artificial beings called ‘Speed Force Scouts’, which can be used to retrieve information through the timestream.
  5. Jesse Chambers: Professionally referred to by the alias Jesse Quick. Along with the Speed Force powers and abilities, she can also fly (an ability inherited from her father, Johnny Quick) and use super-strength (an ability inherited from her mother, Liberty Belle).
Each Flash is crazy fast; and much faster than our good ol’ Pietro.
  • Superman: The limit of Superman’s speed are very strict. He can move and run fast, but not on levels like Quicksilver or any of the Flashes.
CONCLUSION: The Flash is the fastest of the three.
Shaheer Siddiqui
When Marvel and DC have had crossovers between Universes, Quicksilver's powers remained constant due to their mutant origins (which presupposes his body has been organically adapted for the use of superhuman speed) while the Flash's speed is an aspect of an external power which he may not have access to in the Marvel Universe.
With great effort, the Flash may reach the speed of light, in atmosphere, without deleterious environmental effects! Quicksilver has been seen at a top speed of four or five times the speed of sound (Mach 4 or 5). This level of speed for Quicksilver is new. He used to max out at Mach 1.
Since crossover events are exceedingly rare, it is safe to assume that if you were comparing their speeds, the Flash is consistently faster than Quicksilver, though operationally speaking both could be consider comparable since their feats tend to be done at the same overall speed.
Generally speaking, the Flashes of the previous DC Universe continuity were far faster than almost anyone else in their universe with superspeed because they are able to channel a temporal phenomenon called the Speed Force. Other speedsters haven't had as pure a connection and as a result are only a fraction as fast. See: Johnny Quick, Jesse Quick (Chambers), Max Mercury
In the New52 universe, Barry Allen appears to be the only Flash on Prime Earth with a connection to the Speed Force. The renewed Jay Garrick on Earth 2 is now receiving his power from the god Mercury and does not (as far as we currently know) utilize Speed Force energies. There was a version of the Flash on Earth 3 called Johnny Quick whose powers were the same as the Flash's of Prime Earth. He is now deceased.
Both have shown they are able to use their minds faster than an ordinary human. Given their need to have increased perception abilities to handle their bodies moving far faster than any ordinary human's.
If they were unable to speed their cognitive abilities they would likely die once they were moving faster than about two hundred miles an hour because they would be limited by their human reflex time.
There is already a question here answering Barry Allen's (The Flash) ability to think at superhuman speed. Given Barry's far greater speed, he would also likely need to be able to think at a far faster rate than Quicksilver. Baring that, he would at least need a reaction time far greater than Quicksilver's in order to control his much higher top speeds.
Quicksilver typically travels at Mach 4 or 5, sometimes 10. At times he can kick it up a notch and travel “faster than a radio wave”, meaning he’s faster than light. At best we could put him at twice the speed of light
Wally West has gone 23 tredecillion times faster than light when he stole speed from everyone on Earth and Krakkl to outrace teleportation.
In the New 52 Superman once travelled from the end of the universe back to Earth, which would put him at 609 trillion times the speed of light.
One must understand that for the Flash and Superman, there is no limit for their maximum speed. Here is a picture that shows the speed that the Flash traveled at a time
However the average speed of each of these beings at my best calculations, is given below
Flash - Exactly the speed of light
Superman - Mach 10 (ten times the speed of sound)
Quicksilver - Mach 5 (five times the speed of sound)
Sudeep Mukherjee
Flash is fastest then superman and last is Quicksilver.

For calculating speed limit of Flash, you need to consider speed of light.
Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second

The Flash max speed : 13 trillion times the speed of light.(Please write in comment who much it will come in term of Mach Speed).
Superman Speed : Mach 9350
Quicksilver max speed : Mach 10

Quicksilver and flash are always debatable as both are speedster of other Universe.
Flash use Speed force to run and quicksilver is mutant.

In crossover when Quicksilver came to DC world, flash was way more faster than Quicksilver but when flash gone to Marvel Universe there no speed force so quicksilver was way more faster than flash.

Edit : Thanks to Anurakti Sharma and User. Superman is definately faster than The QuickSilver.
Quicksilver tops out at hypersonic speeds. He’s listed at Mach 10, or 10 times the speed of sound.
The Flash can surpass the speed of light. Once you can move faster than light, you can move as fast as you like.
Superman can also surpass the speed of light, which would also allow him to move as fast as he wants.

Who is faster, The Flash or Quicksilver?

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The Flash (any of them) draws his power from the Speedforce and are thus weakened without it. The first Flash (and current flash in the Earth 2 universe) is Jay Garrick, and he could run at supersonic speeds without the speedforce. Some writers have mentioned that he generates his own speedforce (smaller than the proper speedforce).

Quicksilver, on the other hand, has his power due to his genetic mutation (he is a mutant, like the other X-Men, although due to certain rights Marvel could not use his correct origin in Avengers: Age of Ultron). He therfore needs no speedforce to run at superhuman speeds.

In the Avengers/JLA crossover comic book, the Avengers visit DC's universe and the Justice League visits Marvel's universe. While in the DC universe, Quicksilver and Flash race but Quicksilver is astonished at how easily the Flash beats him. But when they were in the Marvel universe, Quicksilver races against Flash once again and he wins. Flash even gets cyborg to build a device that allows him to absorb and store speedforce, but since the amount was probably not as effective as the proper speedforce it did not allow him to run at the same speed.

So in conclusion, I would say that if they raced in the presence of the speedforce, the Flash could easily beat Quicksilver but if there was no speedforce then Quicksilver wins, although Jay Garrick could give him a run for his money.
Ok, flash is definitely faster than quicksilver. Why? When the Justice League went to the Marvel Universe Flash and Quicksilver raced and Quicksilver won. Why?  Flash didn't have the speed force in the Marvel Universe, but, that was Wally West. People ask where the speed force came from in the first place. The person who made the speed force was actually Barry Allen.

Let me get down to some more information about the Flash. Reverse Flash, he gets speed from Barry Allen. Wait, what? Reverse Flash uses the "Negative Speed Force" which came from the speed force which came from Barry Allen. Make sense now. So without Barry he can't run fast. Wait, how fast is the speed force, well the speed force is the fastest thing in the whole universe. It's actually a barrier. There is 5 barriers: The Sound Barrier, The Light Barrier, The Time Barrier, The Dimensional Barrier and The Speed Force Barrier. The negative speed force barrier is right between the dimensional barrier and the speed force barrier. Superman can go speeds where he brakes the dimensional barrier.

Since Barry Allen is the source of the speed force if he went to the Marvel Universe he would just bring the speed force to the Marvel Universe. Wait, this means that Barry Allen is the fastest flash if you think about it. Ok, back to the topic, Flash is able to run in the air. How? He uses the water particles in the air to excel himself into the air. Basically running on water but much harder. Flash can also see the speed of light. What this means is that he can see stuff in a attosecond(a attosecond is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000th of a second or a quintillionth of a second). That means he can see a lighting bolt as if it wasn't moving, wow.

Now, to Quicksilver. Quicksilver is pretty fast. He could first run a little bit faster than the speed of sound(4-5 times the speed of sound), but ever since he was exposed to Isotope E, he could run at Super Sonic Speeds, 10 times the speed of sound. Quicksilver can actually brake the time barrier. In a Avengers comic #5 or 7, he traveled 12 days into the future to see what happens in a upcoming battle. That's pretty impressive for Quicksilver, but nothing compared to the speed force barrier. Quicksilver can see things at the speed of sound, which means, he can see stuff in a millisecond(a millisecond is 10th of a second). Nothing compared to a attosecond.

I'm closing out with this. In X-men: Days of Future Past when Quicksilver was running the bullet from the gun, it was moving pretty slow. In the new Flash series, Barry was in the car with Joe West and a lighting bolt went through the car but before it could hit the bottom of the car, Barry saw it and got Joe out of there with no sweat. If you estimate the bullet and the lighting bolt were moving at the same rate, so that automatically makes it 132 times faster then a bullet(lighting travels at 224,000 (depending on the air condition) mph and a bullet travels at 1,700 mph). So that means that the Flash was moving about 132 times faster then Quicksilver. In Days of Future Past when Logen, Xavier, and Erik came to Quicksilver's house, his mom answered saying ''Are you the police, what did he do this time'', it sounded like he's been doing it for a long time and his basement proves it . This mean he's been running for a long time, so he perfected his speed. The Flash lithely just got his speed and he hasn't even perfected yet and he already moves 132 times faster than Quicksilve(hints at being mach 1,320). So the winner is The Flash. Don't believe me, go look it up and do the math.
Chris Chan Roberson
There is no way that Quicksilver is faster than any version of the Flash. In thd DC universe most speedsters are drawing energy from an extra dimensional source of energy called the Speed Force. Quicksilver is fast due to a genetic mutation and can only be as fast as his muscles allow. There aren't a lot of people in Marvel that are as fast as the Flash. Probably the closest is this guy:
The Runner. He's an Elder of the Universe, once owned an Infinity Gem, and can outrun Death. There might be another Marvel character that is close to the Flash's speed and that is… The Flash!
In an old school episode of the comic Quasar, The Runner had a contest to see who the fastest person alive was and it was won by someone who identified themselves as the “Buried Alien” which was clearly a variation of Barry Allen. The joke was that events from Crisis on Infinite Earths placed him in the Marvel Universe. Marvel got away with it because the only person reading that comic at the time was me.
Vicky Royce
Speed Force! It’s like the pivotal point of the question. Every version of the Flash relies on the existence of Speed Force—in fact, every speedster on Flash-level in the DCU does.
In JLA/Avengers Issue #1, Wally realized something about the Marvel Universe that really sucks for him:
There’s no Speed Force in this universe! My powers are gone!
Since Quicksilver is a mutant, his speed is natural, and he still got his ass handed to him by the Flash in the DCU. Yeah, he lost real bad. Ego left behind in a trail of Flash-created dust. That’s when Quicksilver realized something about the DCU that really sucks for him: He has no chance in all Hell to defeat a Speed-Force enabled Flash.
When the Justice League and the Avengers faced each other the next time, on MU ground, Quicksilver got smug about being faster than the Flash, stating what the Flash had found out all by himself: No Speed Force, no speedster Flash.
Both the Flash and Quicksilver have been faster and slower than the other. It all comes back to home advantage.
However!
The Flash has the better home advantage. In the DCU, he is faster than Quicksilver is in the MU. Even though the Flash can’t compete without Speed Force, the fact remains that with it, he is a freak-ton more powerful than Quicksilver and his mutant power.
It’s a win of Speed Force over mutant ability.
William Moore
This has been answered about a billion times so far… but I’m actually going to step in for a moment.
#1: Pretty much every (I say pretty much for a reason) Every version of the flash is faster then every version of QS. There are a few things to be considered however.
#2: P.I.S. Plot Induced Stupidity…. This is a huge deal in Comics, Simply put, character can be struck stupid depending on who is actually writing.
#3: Show don’t tell. - Comics have a bad habit of saying “Oh superman is a master of hand to hand fighting.” And then having him fight like a drunk in all this comics. Telling us not showing us. The Flash TENDS to be a bigger target of PIS then QS. For a guy who can move trillions of times faster then the speed of light.. He gets hit a awful lot…
#4: Speed/Ability. - Going back to what I just said. It would seam that in both Flash/QS case a lot more hedges on there ability to see things coming then anything else. And even then it seams like they have problems with things they should not. - There is a comic where Deathstroke almost kills the flash with a boobytrap…. Like a knife that flips out as the flash runs at him… Seriously the Flash would need to let himself get hit if he was that fast… so why did he get hit them? Because they needed a way to beat flash in a fight… So he was stupid for a moment.
Why did QS get shot in the Avenger movie? P.I.S….
This is a charger who in the Fox based X-men movies can literally push a bullet out of the way with his finger.
#5: The Flash… Like the TV show.
I’m VERY unimpressed with the flash speed wise in this show… but I’m very pleased that is the direction they went in the show. Simply put… If we had a Flash the speed of the comic book Flash people would get sick of him not fixing the problem instantly all the time. (Because that’s what would happen unless he was stupid)

Fox….
It should be noted that the Quicksilver in the Fox based X-men Movies is MUCH faster then any other version of quicksilver. As in… Most likely a few times faster then the speed of light.
A lot of people kind of don’t figure this out until you consider that in the movie we see him in a kind of slow motion world… still with super speed. As in he can go into super speed WHILE in super speed… This is actually a pretty good visual for what the Flash seams to do.

So the simply answer is…
Flash is faster officially in almost every edition of both characters we get….
With the exception of the Fox-Xmen movies and the DC-Flash-TVShow… That quicksilver does actually seam to be faster then that Flash. But I think that… has more to do with budget and writing.
Tanel Kagan
I can’t really add much to what the others have said - I have a degree of familiarity with the comics but not to the level where I can quote you issue numbers and stories that “prove” the point - but it’s generally accepted that the Flash is not just faster, but significantly so.
Nonetheless, I can understand why you may have asked the question. Blessed as we are these days with live action tv/films with a multitude of effects, many have commented on how Quicksilver appeared to be moving insanely fast during his sequences in X-Men: Days of Future Past and X-Men: Apocalypse.
At the same time, DC’s TV series of the Flash starring Grant Gustin appears to show him running around the city at speeds that are much slower.
What’s happened is that the makers of the TV series have had to slow the Flash right down. In a comic, which is a series of fixed illustrations, the perception of his speed is limited only by one’s imagination. He is regularly portrayed as being able to run at the speed of light or even faster.
However, in a live-action show, anything literally moving at the speed of light, or in that “ballpark”, would be too fast for the human eye to detect. The Flash’s movement and “trail” need to be visible to the viewer, else there is little point. In the show, he takes a few seconds to dash around the city, whereas at light speed, in one second he would be able to run 7.5 times around the Earth.
In contrast, the film makers in X-Men seem to have really sped Quicksilver up. Not only does he move at “normal” speed while around him objects are falling to the ground maybe 50-100 times slower than usual, within this slowed down reality he then moves with additional super speed, maybe 50-100 times faster again. The combined effect would mean that Quicksilver would be moving, at his fastest, between 2,500 and 10,000 times faster than “normal”.
Note that this would mean he might achieve 10km in one second (instead of 1m in one second at normal speed) but even if that were the case, this is some 30,000 times slower than light, and hence much much slower than the Flash.
Of course, the whole thing nonetheless looks really cool, because we’re not in Quicksilver’s case watching a dot whizzing around on a screen, we’re watching a person interact up close with his environment with lots of weird, wonderful and amusing effects.
Edward King
Never, Ever, Ever.

The Flash, be it Barry, Wally, Bart, or Jay, were insanely FAST. Pre-Crisis, Barry, Wally, and Jay were pretty much equal with the faster than light speeds. Post-Crisis, Wally could only run at the speed of sound and Jay was given a limit as well. As time passed, Wally's speed fluctuated and Jay's was hard-set at Mach 1. By the time Bart becomes the Flash, he could run just short of light speed. When Barry returns, he proves very quickly that he is still insanely fast and faster than Superman. In the New 52, who knows? The stories just aren't very good at explaining things.

Qucksilver, can only hit Mach 10 since being modified by the High Evolutionary. Which is still a hell of a lot slower the The Flash.

As the JLA/Avengers crossover: That was Wally and not Barry, so it was correct that Quicksilver would be faster than The Flash since Wally didn't have access to the Speedforce. HOWEVER, Barry is the source of the Speedforce and Quicksilver would have been beaten to a pulp regardless of what universe they were in.
Isaac Herod
There is no way Quicksilver even kind of stands chance against the Flash.
Quicksilver’s most amazing, best all time speed is a whopping… Wait what? Mach is the best he can do?
I was expecting more from you Quicksilver. But your name does imply, you only get the silver in this fight (Awful pun? Check).
The Flash’s most amazing, best all time speed is a whopping… Holy crap?! Flash ran from the edge of the universe to earth in a planck instant?!
A planck instant is 5.39 × 10−44 s. That translates to 0.000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 005 39 seconds. Flash ran, approximately, very loosely, at about 20 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000x the speed of light. Roughly. I actually rounded way down. For dramatic effect, I will now calculate this speed. 600 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 meter per second. *Ahem* METERS PER SECOND.
That’s incredible. Since I know there will be butt-hurt about this being a one time thing, and it included the sacrifice of a friend and a lot of help, let’s just use Flash’s typical speed. Which would be about Mach 3000, give or take.
Either way, Quicksilver looses in a hurry. *ba dum crash*
Abhijith Bharadwaj
Undoubtedly, it's The Flash!
It has been proven time to time that the flash is the fastest man alive. He is much faster than superman and also he can travel faster than instantaneous transmission.
Going into the technical terms,
Quicksilver can move at a maximum speed of mach 640.
And, The Flash moves at a speed of 23,759,449,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times the speed of light ( 23 tri-decillion times the speed of light)!

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#3 Posted by Thee Arch Angel Micheal (446 posts) -  - Show Bio
Flash is beyond speed now, he's at a whole new level.
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#4 Posted by The WeatherMan (3261 posts) -  - Show Bio
Fkash would win, obviously. When you have the potential to take down heavyhitters like Hulk, Iron Man and Doomsday, all Flash needs to do is give Quicksilver a good b!@#$ slap in the face. He can move much faster then Quicksilver. 1
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#5 Posted by thegaminboy (56 posts) -  - Show Bio
the flash would win....just b/c he (the flash) and other dc characters (superman) are over rediculously powered. that's why i like mavel
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#6 Posted by Bane_delete (828 posts) -  - Show Bio
i agree
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i agree
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#8 Posted by Final Arrow (24426 posts) -  - Show Bio
Flash ( dont need to say anything else)
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#9 Posted by Bane_delete (828 posts) -  - Show Bio
yep!
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#10 Posted by Satyrquaze (4539 posts) -  - Show Bio
A much better VS. thread would be Flash vs. Makkari of the Eternals. He's MUCH faster than Quicksilver.
Most of the Marvel speedsters raced in Quasar #17, Lightning struck the raceway well behind most of the racers, and a blond human man wearing red tatters with lighting motifs and yellow boots emerged from it and began running. He outraced every Marvel character in the contest (Including Quicksilver and Makkari). When he crossed the finish line The Runner told he won and asked his name, the answer was "Buried Alien".
Get it?? "Buried Alien"... Barry Allen... get it?
Even Marvel accepts that Flash is the fastest man alive, even in their universe!
Flash wins this.
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Satyrquaze says:
"A much better VS. thread would be Flash vs. Makkari of the Eternals. He's *MUCH* faster than Quicksilver. Most of the Marvel speedsters raced in Quasar #17, Lightning struck the raceway well behind most of the racers, and a blond human man wearing red tatters with lighting motifs and yellow boots emerged from it and began running. He outraced every Marvel character in the contest (Including Quicksilver and Makkari). When he crossed the finish line The Runner told he won and asked his name, the answer was "Buried Alien". Get it?? "Buried Alien"... Barry Allen... get it? Even Marvel accepts that Flash is the fastest man alive, even in their universe! Flash wins this."
I never heard that before, thats sweet. Flash should get more respect then he does.
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#12 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) -  - Show Bio
That guy wasn't Flash. He was Fastforward, an homage to Barry Allen (who had just died in DC). The point still stands though, Flash > all speedsters.
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Satyrquaze says:
"A much better VS. thread would be Flash vs. Makkari of the Eternals. He's *MUCH* faster than Quicksilver. Most of the Marvel speedsters raced in Quasar #17, Lightning struck the raceway well behind most of the racers, and a blond human man wearing red tatters with lighting motifs and yellow boots emerged from it and began running. He outraced every Marvel character in the contest (Including Quicksilver and Makkari). When he crossed the finish line The Runner told he won and asked his name, the answer was "Buried Alien". Get it?? "Buried Alien"... Barry Allen... get it? Even Marvel accepts that Flash is the fastest man alive, even in their universe! Flash wins this."
Makkari even beat the runner
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#14 Posted by Thee Arch Angel Micheal (446 posts) -  - Show Bio
Didnt Quicksilver gain some new powers? I thought he stole some mist or something from the Inhumans.
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even with those powers flash would still put the hurt on him
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#16 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) -  - Show Bio
The real question is what universe? Marvel ,Flash is powerless so Quicksilver. DC universe, Quicksilver is just outmatched.
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#17 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) -  - Show Bio
Doing it in the Marvel Universe would defeat the purpose of the competition since it would mean removing the power that you're trying to compare, speed. It'd be like removing quicksilver's mutant gene and putting him in the race. If Flash doesn't have access to his powers there's no point. Of course, there's no point anyway since Flash is so much faster that Quicksilver that this whole thing is ridiculous.
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#18 Posted by Baby Girl (67 posts) -  - Show Bio
DUH! Flash obviously! Cause if wolverine can take Quicksilver like he did in Ultimate XMen Vol.1, then Flash definately could.
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#19 Posted by Satyrquaze (4539 posts) -  - Show Bio
Buckshot says:
"That guy wasn't Flash. He was Fastforward, an homage to Barry Allen (who had just died in DC). The point still stands though, Flash > all speedsters."
It was Flash in every way except name. He didn't rename himself Fastforward until Quasar #58. Several Flash fans felt that Quasar #17 was a more meaningful homage to Barry than anything DC did at the time, partly because it was published by Marvel.
In Quasar #58 the writer (Mark Grunewald) neatly side-steps the question of who is faster between Fastforward and Makkari by having Fastfoward sacrifice his lead to save Makkari.
http://www.hyperborea.org/flash/quasar.html
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I agree. Didn't Flash feel something tap his neck, turned around, and it was a bullet?
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Satyrquaze says:
"Buckshot says:
"That guy wasn't Flash. He was Fastforward, an homage to Barry Allen (who had just died in DC). The point still stands though, Flash > all speedsters."
It was Flash in every way except name. He didn't rename himself Fastforward until Quasar #58. Several Flash fans felt that Quasar #17 was a more meaningful homage to Barry than anything DC did at the time, partly because it was published by Marvel.
In Quasar #58 the writer (Mark Grunewald) neatly side-steps the question of who is faster between Fastforward and Makkari by having Fastfoward sacrifice his lead to save Makkari.
" />http://www.hyperborea.org/flash/quasar.html"I understand that it was a character made to honor Flash and represent him in a Marvel comic, I was just making it clear that it wasn't Flash.
fr2007 says:
"I agree. Didn't Flash feel something tap his neck, turned around, and it was a bullet?"
That sounds hilarious, I'd love to see a picture of this if anyone can find it or knows what book it's in.
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#22 Posted by Satyrquaze (4539 posts) -  - Show Bio
Buckshot says:
"I understand that it was a character made to honor Flash and represent him in a Marvel comic, I was just making it clear that it wasn't Flash."
Understood, I'd just like to think that if Gruenwald could have actually had a Flash appearnace in that book , he would have. As it was I think 'Buried Alien' is as close as he could have gotten.
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#23 Posted by Final Arrow (24426 posts) -  - Show Bio
Okay flash is not powerless in the marvel Uni as Steel built him a pack that allows him to tap into the spped force,
But it is Flash all the way.
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#24 Posted by Methos (40531 posts) -  - Show Bio
quite simply put, the flash is the fastest hero in any universe...
there is only one character that can match the flash for speed, and it ain't quicksilver.

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#25 Posted by Final Arrow (24426 posts) -  - Show Bio
Gambler.
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the quicksilver has enough power and he lacks to explode but their ability

the quicksilver has a great opportunity of it won Flash
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WATH?
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GambitO says:
"the quicksilver has enough power and he lacks to explode but their ability the quicksilver has a great opportunity of it won Flash
" />http://evolution.eracerx.com/wallpaper/speedandspyke_quicksilver_1152.jpg"I'm not trying to pick on you, but Flash would smoke Quiksilver. It wouldnt even be close, Flash would pound him into the ground.
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#29 Posted by Twilight Keyblader (97 posts) -  - Show Bio
Flash is way faster than Quicksilver. Quicksilver would be done before this sentence is finished.
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#30 Posted by Bane_delete (828 posts) -  - Show Bio
Twilight Keyblader says:
"Flash is way faster than Quicksilver. Quicksilver would be done before this sentence is finished."
yeah i know.
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#31 Posted by GambitO (997 posts) -  - Show Bio
I believe that nobody knows until the moment the total potential of quicksilver
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#32 Posted by Assimilation (985 posts) -  - Show Bio
Flash. He Quicksilver's only chance would be if the Flash had a broken leg... and was sleeping... and was missing the other leg. Then Quicksilver might have a chance.
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#33 Posted by Captain Hazard (1559 posts) -  - Show Bio
Assimilation says:
"Flash. He Quicksilver's only chance would be if the Flash had a broken leg... and was sleeping... and was missing the other leg. Then Quicksilver might have a chance."
I think you might be giving Quicksilver too much credit.:P
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#34 Posted by Valkaad (2701 posts) -  - Show Bio
speed says: "Makkari even beat the runner"
That to me was totally ridiculous. The runner is an elder of the universe, he taps the power primordial (more powerful than the power cosmic). The runner can run faster than the speed of light. Makkari shouldn't be able to touch him. Who ever wrote him beating The Runner is a complete moron.
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#35 Posted by Li'l T-bo (149 posts) -  - Show Bio
^^^
True. Makkari is an Eternal of Earth. The Runner is an Elder of the Universe. No comparison.
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#36 Posted by The_Ghostshell (84303 posts) -  - Show Bio
Flash operates outside the boundries of the univerese. Besides, the Elder's are overrated.
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#37 Posted by Li'l T-bo (149 posts) -  - Show Bio
"Flash operates outside the boundries of the univerese"
The "univerese" is called what it is because it encompasses everything. He can he operate outside the "boundries" of all that IS?
PS - Grandmaster is what he is, the ultimate strategist. The Runner is not overrated at running, and I thought that was what we were talking about?
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#38 Posted by Valkaad (2701 posts) -  - Show Bio
Li'l T-bo says:
"" The Runner is not overrated at running, and I thought that was what we were talking about?"
Yeah how is it possible to overrate the running ability of a guy who has run for 5 billion years.
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#39 Posted by Mister Caroline (8 posts) -  - Show Bio
Quicksilver is so out of his league it isn't even funny...
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#40 Posted by Valkaad (2701 posts) -  - Show Bio
Mister Caroline says:
"Quicksilver is so out of his league it isn't even funny..."
AGREED!!
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#41 Posted by The_Ghostshell (84303 posts) -  - Show Bio
Li'l T-bo says:
""Flash operates outside the boundries of the univerese" The "univerese" is called what it is because it encompasses everything. He can he operate outside the "boundries" of all that IS? PS - Grandmaster is what he is, the ultimate strategist. The Runner is not overrated at running, and I thought that was what we were talking about?"
There's a Marvel Universe and a DC Universe, the Flash can operate outside of the DC universe and into the Marvel. That's how.
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#42 Posted by zapikachu (1 posts) -  - Show Bio
Quicksilver should win.  Super Sonic speeds of Mach 5 (3,801 miles per hour).  Unless Flash happens to be running 3,802 miles per hour, I don't see any competition.  Besides if Flash is still compared to the speed of the Man of Steel who is merely faster than a speeding bullet, I don't see what is so fascinating.  Also Quicksilver being a mutant, genetically he can actually go even faster than we know of later on.  I don't know what it says in the comics of who won but generally Quicksilver should win statistically unless DC pulls their "Overpowered" nonsense factor again.  "Up up and away!"  Bleh.

All in all.  I don't know.  Seems kinda lame though.  Speedsters in a race of who's the fastest.  Might as well thrown in Road Runner, Sonic the Hedgehog, and Speedy Gonzalez in the mix and see who eats a hotdog the fastest.  This would be fun to watch on Robot Chicken.
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#43 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4445 posts) -  - Show Bio
Flash.
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#44 Edited by Logic Mark III (2132 posts) -  - Show Bio
Is there an actual speed set for Quicksilver nowadays? I mean he was fast enough to go back and forth in time, we dont know that he cant do that still do we?
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#45 Posted by Perfect Cell (3719 posts) -  - Show Bio
Wait the new QuickSilver uses time; not speed. What can Flash do with his speed if there is no time?
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#46 Posted by SeSAW (3694 posts) -  - Show Bio
Flash would totally dominate Quicksilver he maybe  5 or even 6 times as fast as him, he would also beat Makkari like he stole something. But sorry he aint the fastest in Comics Marvel has at least 2 characters that are much faster, Silver Surfer, and the Runner both are much faster than any Flash ever was Pre or post Crisis, Nova might also be faster.
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#47 Posted by SeSAW (3694 posts) -  - Show Bio
Satyrquaze said:
"A much better VS. thread would be Flash vs. Makkari of the Eternals. He's MUCH faster than Quicksilver.
Most of the Marvel speedsters raced in Quasar #17, Lightning struck the raceway well behind most of the racers, and a blond human man wearing red tatters with lighting motifs and yellow boots emerged from it and began running. He outraced every Marvel character in the contest (Including Quicksilver and Makkari). When he crossed the finish line The Runner told he won and asked his name, the answer was "Buried Alien".
Get it?? "Buried Alien"... Barry Allen... get it?
Even Marvel accepts that Flash is the fastest man alive, even in their universe!
Flash wins this.
"

that was said to pay homage to him but that acutally was a diss to Flash. I thought every one else got that, they were not gonna actually say Flash was faster.
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#48 Posted by yadeline (3 posts) -  - Show Bio
COMICS SUCKS.
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#49 Posted by Logic Mark III (2132 posts) -  - Show Bio
How can anyone say how many times faster the Flash is when we dont know Quicksilvers top speed?
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#50 Posted by Ebony Bishop (792 posts) -  - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"Satyrquaze said:
"A much better VS. thread would be Flash vs. Makkari of the Eternals. He's MUCH faster than Quicksilver.
Most of the Marvel speedsters raced in Quasar #17, Lightning struck the raceway well behind most of the racers, and a blond human man wearing red tatters with lighting motifs and yellow boots emerged from it and began running. He outraced every Marvel character in the contest (Including Quicksilver and Makkari). When he crossed the finish line The Runner told he won and asked his name, the answer was "Buried Alien".
Get it?? "Buried Alien"... Barry Allen... get it?
Even Marvel accepts that Flash is the fastest man alive, even in their universe!
Flash wins this.
"

that was said to pay homage to him but that acutally was a diss to Flash. I thought every one else got that, they were not gonna actually say Flash was faster."

How was this a test of Marvel's speedsters when Northstar (who is MUCH faster than Quicksilver) wasn't there? I know it was a running race, and Northstar typically flies, but that's only because it's easier than running. He can still move near light-speeds while running, and would destroy at least Quicksilver in any race. I always thought he was more of a match for flash than Quicksilver, in all but popularity.



Flash VS Quicksilver
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Air dateMay 18th, 2016
Written bySam Mitchell & Jessica Davis
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Flash VS Quicksilver is the 61st episode of DEATH BATTLE!, featuring a fight between The Flash from DC Comics and Quicksilver from Marvel Comics, the two most iconic comic book speedsters. The Flash is voiced by Anthony Bowling and Quicksilver is voiced by Edwyn Tiong.

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DC and Marvel clash in a death race, and only one speedster will survive!

Interlude

Boomstick: A long, long time ago, mankind began to walk.
Wiz: And then, we ran, and ever since that moment, we've been pushing speed to it's very limit, or in this case, past the point of absurdity.
Boomstick: The Flash, DC Comics' scarlet speedster.
Wiz: And Quicksilver, Marvel's fast-talking Avenger.
Boomstick: He's Wiz and I'm Boomstick...
Wiz: And it's our job to analyze their weapons, armor, and skills, to find out who would win....a Death Battle.

The Flash

Wiz: From Wonder Woman to Superman, there's no shortage of DC heroes capable of achieving superhuman feats. But only one is truly synonymous with speed itself.
Boomstick: The Flash (Ahhh!)
Wiz: But, before he became the Flash, he was only known as Barry Allen.
Boomstick: Like many superheroes, Barry's lacking in the whole, "living parent" department.
Wiz: One day after returning home, he discovered his mother had been murdered, and his father had been wrongly convicted of the crime.
Boomstick: Knowing dad was innocent, Barry vowed to clear him of the crime and became... a forensic scientist for the Central City Police.
Boomstick: Buuut dear old dad died before Barry could set him free.
Wiz: Wracked with grief, this only strengthened Barry's resolve to find his mother's real killer.
Boomstick: And on one fateful night, when he was doing some... sciency stuff, he got struck by lighting! And then fell into some chemicals.
Wiz: Now normally, this would be incredibly fatal, but since this is comic books, Allen was imbued with the power to move his body at incredible speeds and became the Flash!
Boomstick: (Ahh!) You're probably thinking "Okay, cool, he's like, fast enough to run across water now," but there's a whole slew of other benefits that come with his new power. Like accelerated healing, enhanced strength, the ability to absorb kinetic energy from others, a brain that works faster than a supercomputer, and the ability to throw lightning.
Wiz: To do any of this, Flash draws his power from the Speed Force. An extra dimensional energy source, which, when synced with a living being's bio-electric field, amplifies and distorts their perception and placement in individual time versus time outside their own field.
Boomstick: What?
Wiz: Uh, in layman's terms, it's kinda like, uh, the Force in Star Wars, but instead of Jedi tapping into it's powers, it's comic book speedsters.
Boomstick: I see...
Wiz: Think of it as it's own dimension, that the Flash can use as a power source, and also enter on his own whim. Plus, it's pretty handy for getting the Flash out of jams when an author writes him into a corner.
Boomstick: Sure...also, while other speedsters like Max Mercury and Wally West use the Speed Force, Barry is actually the one who generates it! And boy, can he do some ridiculous stuff.
Wiz: When push comes to shove, he can easily break the speed of light, over 670 million miles per hour.
Boomstick: He once rescued everyone from a collapsing apartment building, then used the public library to learn everything he needed to rebuild the whole place, and then he did it, all before the cops showed up! Oh, and he can run on clouds.
Wiz: Apparently, he does this by vibrating his feet in such a way that the ice crystals within the clouds are collected underneath him to provide footholds, which is an affront to science!
Boomstick: Speed Force, Wiz.
Wiz: Anyway, his brain is fast enough to perceive events in less then an attosecond, he once called the Justice League supercomputer slow, which, by the way, processes at one hundred thousand trillion calculations per second.
Boomstick: The Speed Force also absorbs damage like a shield, because at this point, what can't it do? Make waffles? Probably. He was once blown up by enough grenades to send him flying into a tree, breaking it in half.
Wiz: To snap a tree like that, requires at least 70,000 pounds of force.
Boomstick: Ouch, but he was up and running around in no time, thanks to Speed Force healing.
Wiz; Right, like the time he got stabbed through the leg, but minutes later, stood up and ran fast enough to outrace a nuclear blast, and break the time barrier, yes, I said "time barrier".
Boomstick: Did you ever hear the phrase, "New 52"? Like, where DC rebooted it's whole universe and everyone's backstories? Yeah, Flash....Flash did that...all of it....Batman's dad told him to.
Wiz: You'd think time travel would be an awesome skill to have, but not really in Flash's case. While well intentioned, his hot headed time-hopping adventures usually end up making things worse.
Boomstick: Like when he tried to save his mom's life, and ended up ruining the entire universe instead!
Professor Zoom: Break the sound barrier and there's a sonic boom. You broke the time barrier, Flash, time boom. Ripples of distortion radiated out through that point of impact, shifting everything just a tiny bit, but enough.
Wiz: Also, it is possible for others to disrupt Flash's connection to the Speed Force, making him lose his abilities.
Boomstick: But with fast healing, time travel, extra-dimensional power, he's done a lot for a guy who can run really fast.
Barry Allen uses his ring to change into the Flash.

Quicksilver

Boomstick: An amazing man once said, "To achieve great things, one must sacrifice stability and push one's limit past sanity", and few people embody those words better than Quicksilver.
Wiz: Wait, who said that quote?
Boomstick: I did, last week, when I got my sweet new dune buggy and jumped that lake!
Wiz: No, you just said 'hold my beer', and drove it straight into the water.
Boomstick: Wiz, come on, stay on topic, Quicksilver goes fast.
Wiz: Uh... Yeah, that's true, and I guess your fake quote kind of applies, because Quicksilver's life has been anything but stable. I mean, his origin story is absolutely insanely convoluted. I guess that's what happens when competing movie studios both inadvertently own the rights to the same character.
Boomstick: Yeah, don't worry, I got it. Basically, Quicksilver and his twin sister the Scarlet Witch were born Pietro and Wanda to a pair of gypsies named Django and Marya Maximoff. But as babies, they were kidnapped by a guy they call the High Evolutionary. He experimented on the two children, and then returned them to their parents, only now they had super cool powers! But Pietro and Wanda were later tricked into believing that they were the mutant children of Magneto, abandoned by their mother and handed off to gypsies by a cow lady midwife.
Wiz: What the hell!?
Boomstick: Y'know, it doesn't even matter. They're the kids of gypsies, and they have super cool powers.
Wiz: Well, with all the instability in his personal life, it's no wonder Pietro Maximoff has been known to bounce from alliance to alliance, like when Magneto saved him from an angry mob, he joined the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, where Magneto gave him his sleek costume, and his new name: Quicksilver.
Boomstick: But, when Magneto got his ass kicked, Quicksilver joined the Avengers, because what's loyalty when you can't even keep track of who your dad is? I wish I at least knew WHERE my dad was, though.
Wiz: Probably as far away as possible....ahem, well, one benefit in all this hopping back and forth across the line in the sand, is that Quicksilver's had training and experience from both sides of the spectrum, from the likes of Captain America to Mastermind.
Boomstick: But really, when your fast enough to disappear in the blink of an eye, who wouldn't want you on their team? After all, Quicksilver is all about speed. He can heal fast, think fast, learn fast, and of course, run around really friggin' fast.
Wiz: He can run around an opponent so fast, he forms a tornado, sucking away the oxygen and suffocating them.
Boomstick: He can easily run on water, and maintain speeds of more than 700 miles per hour, for extremely long periods of time, and if things are looking serious, he can crank it up even further, and become fast enough to outrun a radio wave.
Wiz: Radio waves are a kind of electromagnetic radiation, and thus, travel the same speed as light. Meaning, Quicksilver can run well over 670 million miles per hour.
Boomstick: Much like Wiz seeing himself in the mirror every morning, Quicksilver has survived some pretty terrifying things.
Wiz: Yeah...hey! He has taken a hit from some of Marvel's strongest heroes, including Hercules, the god of strength himself.
Boomstick: He doesn't even flinch at the destructive shockwaves made by his own speed, and one time, he ran up a mountain so fast, he accidentally launched himself into an airplane, and fell 39,000 feet, down into the ocean, and survived! Man, that's crazy to think about.
Wiz: Speaking of thinking, his brain can process and retain information so quickly, that he memorized Beethoven's "Moonlight Sonata" by ear, and could play it himself, in just about a minute, a feet which takes an average person years to perfect.
Boomstick; Despite having a taste for calming and refined music, he's incredibly impatient, and has been known to lash out in anger and annoyance.
Wiz: Why does that sound familiar?
Boomstick: You shut your mouth before I shut it for you!
Wiz: I rest my case...Quicksilver also has a tendency to run headfirst into danger without thinking things through.
Boomstick: Rest your case? I'll rest your case!
Wiz: Alright, just don't trip on that...
(Boomstick trips on something and falls hard)
Boomstick: (Groans) I hurt my balls...just finish the rundown!
Wiz: (chuckling) Well, despite his brashness, Quicksilver is a tragedy hardened speed-freak, who I wouldn't cross for even a second.
(Quicksilver sees a creature)
Quicksilver: Oh, I get it, your supposed to stop me, well go ahead, try.
(The creature swipes at him, he dodges and zips around it, punching multiple times, it falls)
Quicksilver: Next time, try a little harder.

Death Battle

Somewhere in New York City, civilians watch in rapt attention at the scene of a burning building.
A cop car arrives (running a civilian down in the process) and Captain America steps out. A young girl is high up on the building, struggling to breathe.
Captain America: Please stay calm, miss! I'm coming up there!
The girl loses her footing and falls.
Captain America: No!
As she falls, time slows down and eventually stops.
The Flash and Quicksilver arrive on the scene at the same time, both ready to be the hero.
Both: I got her!
Quicksilver: Wait, who the hell are you? You trying to steal my spotlight?
Flash: Uh, seriously? Have you been living under a rock? I'm the Flash. All star hero? Fastest man alive?
Quicksilver: Fastest? Bullshit, that's me. Let's race to Japan!
Flash looks up, and to him, the girl is falling incredibly slowly.
Flash: Well, what the heck? I've got time.
Quicksilver: Ok, on the count of three. Three!
Quicksilver cheats and runs off ahead of Flash. Barry catches up to Pietro and runs alongside him.
Flash: Hey hey hey! Cheap trick pal!
Quicksilver: I got another one for you!
Quicksilver punches Flash, knocking him off course.
Flash: So that's how we're gonna do this, huh?
He catches up with Quicksilver and runs alongside him again.
FIGHT!
Barry and Pietro race across NYC and up a building. They jump off and trade blows in midair until Quicksilver catches one of Flash's punches. He shifts behind the Scarlet Speedster and kicks him away.
Quicksilver: Catch ya later!
Quicksilver lands in Central Park and keeps running for Japan.
Quicksilver: Hmph, what a loser!
The Flash suddenly appears amid some trees, then hops back into the race.
Flash: Hey man! Did you miss me?
The two race across the United States, eventually ending up on a California beach. Quicksilver takes the initiative and gives Flash a Polish hammer, flooring him.
Quicksilver: Too slow!
Pietro then starts running around Barry, causing a whirlwind that sucks him up, then pummels the helpless Flash in midair.
Quicksilver: How's it feel to lose, chump?
Flash dodges his last attack.
Flash: Let's turn this around!
Flash spins in the opposite direction, reversing (and reddening) the whirlwind so that it overtakes Quicksilver.
Quicksilver: Agh! What?
Flash knocks his foe out of the cyclone. With both heroes airborne, Flash notices an incoming flock of birds.
Flash: Aw crap...
Barry spins his arms to create a vortex and blow Pietro into the flock...
Quicksilver: Ahh! God damn it!
...and then uses the birds as a platform to dropkick the erstwhile mutant into the water. Flash races on the water, and Quicksilver recovers and catches up.
Quicksilver: All right Flash, so you're fast! But I'm stronger and smarter!
Flash: Prove it, tough guy!
They briefly trade blows again.
Flash: Ok, this is getting dumb.
Barry speeds ahead...
Quicksilver: ...Flash?
...and the scene changes to a white void, frozen in time.
Quicksilver: The hell? What's going on?
Flash: You're in the Speed Force. MY Speed Force. I'm sure you feel it, the raw energy coursing all around you. This is the source of my power. And here, I AM KING!
The Flash, now supercharged, clobbers Quicksilver at super speed. He then charges up a lightning bolt and tosses it at his opponent, knocking him out of the Speed Force and back into real world. Quicksilver flies for miles, screaming all the way, until he is impaled on a sword-wielding statue in Japan. Flash arrives and surveys the corpse.
Flash: Eww... Well, at least you beat me here! Bye!
He runs off.
KO!
Flash runs back to New York to rescue the girl while Quicksilver's corpse is visited by a solemn Magneto.

Results

(*Cues: Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox - Hell of a Messenger*)
Boomstick: Flash Fact: Sharp things hurt.
Wiz: As fast is Quicksilver is, the Flash is just... MUCH, MUCH faster.
Boomstick: Quicksilver clearing the speed of light is great and all, but the Flash has gone ten times that.
Wiz: Which would put him at more than 6 billion miles per hour!
Boomstick: Plus, Barry can pull people into the Speed Force and fight them there, giving him a homefield advantage.
Wiz: In addition, the Flash's brain can process events in less than an attosecond, and in case you're wondering, 12 attoseconds is the shortest amount of time humanity has ever been able to measure. This means that while Quicksilver's Beethoven feat proved he could think over 500 thousand times faster than an ordinary person, the Flash can think many trillion times faster. He had plenty of time to predict every perceivable action Quicksilver may have taken.
Boomstick: Quicksilver had the upper hand in formal combat training, but when you're fighting someone who can move, think, and act WAY faster than you, there's not really much you can do. You could say this battle was over... in a Flash!
Wiz:...The winner is the Flash...

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